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孟繁玮(以下简称孟):邵先生,您在“美术理论与文化强国”学术研讨会上谈到的一些问题,我们都特别感兴趣。对于美术理论的变化和发展,尤其是近三十年来,您是参与者、见证者。在2010年《美术观察》策划当代中国美术观的讨论时,您就提出了许多宝贵且有建设性的意见。今天想请您就“美术理论如何敢于现实”深入地谈一谈。邵大箴(中央美术学院教授,以下简称邵):我觉得艺术,包括艺术理论和艺术创作,都要面向现实。理论面向现实和创作实践面向现实,都有很大多难点,不是说艺术家想面向现实就可以做到的,因为这是一个双向的问题。其中包
Meng Fanwei (hereinafter referred to as Meng): Mr. Shao, we are particularly interested in some of the issues that we talked about during the academic symposium on “Theory of Art and Cultural Power.” For the change and development of art theory, especially for nearly three decades, you are a participant and a witness. When the Art Watch in 2010 planned the discussion of contemporary Chinese art, you made a lot of valuable and constructive comments. Today I’d like to invite you to talk in depth about how art theory dares to be realistic. Shao Dazuo (Professor of Central Academy of Fine Arts, hereinafter referred to as Shao): I think that art, including art theory and artistic creation, must be realistic. Theory faces the reality and the creative practice faces the reality. All this has a lot of difficulties. It does not mean that the artist can do it because it is a two-way question. Which package